Highlights from Mr. Adnan Oktar's interview on 23 August 2011

A9 TV, 23 August 2011

• The truth of the matter is that Libya is now part of the Turkish-Islamic Union. You will understand in the days that follow what I mean by this. The same goes for Syria, insha’Allah, and Egypt. He [Bediuzzaman] says, “The future belongs to Islam, and Islam alone.” In other words, not to communism or fascism or anything else. “The ruler will be the truths of faith compatible with the Holy Qur’an.” The truths compatible with the Holy Qur’an will prevail intellectually, in other words. “O my brothers in this great Islamic world, as well as my brothers in the Umayyad mosque,” in other words, he is addressing all the Muslims in the world. “You too take warning. Take warning from these terrible events in these 45 years. Come to your senses. O you who think regard yourselves as intelligent,” in other words, intelligent people, those in a position of authority, men with a cause, men of state. Umayyad mosque 

• “The essence of the matter is that we Muslims, followers of the Qur’an,” note how he says followers of the Qur’an. That is a special description; followers of the Qur’an. He says we are followers of the Qur’an. In other words, he emphasizes the sufficiency of the Qur’an. This is a vital way of speaking, this reference to being followers of the Qur’an. He says the Qur’an is quite sufficient. Because unbelievers do not regard the Qur’an as sufficient. Neither do hypocrites. Hypocrites act out of that. They basely and perfidiously attack Muslims by claiming that the Qur’an is not sufficient. “We abide by the proof that distinguished right from wrong, truth from superstition.” How can we tell right from wrong, truth from superstition? From the Qur’an. “We Muslims, follow proof; we approach the truths of belief through reason, thought, and our hearts.” He says we use our intelligence, we have ideas, and we “approach the truths of belief” through opinions based on good conscience. “We cannot leave aside the proofs that separate right from wrong, truth from superstition, for the imitation of people from other faiths, such as priests.” In other words, we fully abide by the proof, and permit no ascription of equals to Allah.

• “The sixth and seventh obstacles: The despotism that was with us, and our degeneracy that arose from opposing shari’a, were obstacles. The fact that the separate despotic power residing in a single individual is now declining indicates that the fearful despotism of larger groups in society and of committees will also decline in thirty to forty years’ time. And the great upsurge in Islamic zeal, together with the fact that the ugly results of immorality are becoming apparent, show that these two obstacles are about to decline, indeed, that they have begun to do so. God willing, they will completely disappear in the future.” 

• Freedom will begin to spread in 30-40 years’ time, democracy will begin to spread, he says. And it has happened just as he said. This is a prophecy of Bediüzzaman’s. What the PKK [terror organization] is doing, people are dying because of drugs, people are being martyred in Afghanistan and persecuted in Iraq, Gaddafi acted like a psychopath in Libya, and that man is inflicting terrible suffering in Syria. “People are now fully convinced of the need for Islam,” he [Bediuzzaman] says. He says it gives the exact date of the coming of Hazrat Mahdi (as). And he says this way back in the time of Sultan Abdulhamid. I am looking at life after ’71, he says. First he goes to ’71. Crossing space and time. He first goes to that time, and then looks at life after 1371. “30-40 years after,” he says. He has left the time of Abdulhamid. He does not remain within time. He is in one time and then in another and then in another. Bediuzzaman swears that he does not write what he has not seen, “I have not written a thing I have not seen,” he says.

• Bediuzzaman describes a characteristic of Hazrat Mahdi (as): “yes, it is well known that his virtue is such that even his enemies witness and recognize it.” They will have to acknowledge Hazrat Mahdi (as); he is generally superior, masha’Allah, they will say. Look, “Allah will cause his enemies to say it and to acknowledge his virtue,” he says. “This is the highest virtue,” he says. The most successful, greatest virtue that “even his enemies acknowledge.”  “Masha’Allah,” they will say.

• (About Ahmadinejad’s statement that we should resolve the Syrian problem without America)

Assad is being patronizing, saying things along the lines of “Turkey can tell us its opinion, and we can speak, but there is no need for it to say too much.”  That is a rather patronizing way of speaking. He is not using any warm, friendly language. He is not saying, “Turkey is our older brother, Iran is our brother, so let us come together and decide together.” He is saying, "We don’t need any suggestions from anyone. You can tell us them, that is a different matter. You can get it off your chest. But it is me who will take the decisions.” You are taking the decisions, but you are devastating Muslims. You force people to say “Assad is Allah” (may Allah forbid!) For one thing, you do not control the army. The secret state controls the army. They are devastating Muslims there. Young girls and women are being raped. The Syrian army is godless and irreligious. The greater part of it are godless; they have all been brought up as Marxists, Leninists and communists. Darwinism has fried their brains. They have a huge hatred for Islam, they loathe it. They feed on the nation’s money. They draw their wages, they enjoy really high salaries, they have all kinds of privileges, they have military hospitality centers where they can eat and drink, but they assault the nation’s religion and faith and spiritual things.

They beat Muslims and force them to say that “Assad is Allah” (may Allah forbid!) He is perfectly well aware of this, as he sits there quite calmly. All of Syria has been devastated. They are bombing Muslims from the land, air and sea, everywhere. If the Syrian Army wants to act tough, it should go to Israel and try to act tough there and see how far it gets. They are acting tough and flexing their muscles against Muslims. Tell them not to mistreat Muslim women, young girls, and they may behave in any disgusting fashion possible. They are acting tough against their own people. What is the essential characteristic of the army? To protect against external forces, isn’t it? I am not saying that they should be attacking Israel. Of course they must all be brothers and live together as friends. But they are afraid of them. And weak. But the Muslims they beat up cannot make their voices heard. They are quiet and innocent and say nothing. They crush them under their boots, beat them black and blue on the streets or in their cars. But when they see Israeli troops their legs give way and they fall in a dead faint. But when it comes to Muslims, they mistreat them and feed on Muslims’ money. Muslims pay you taxes, and you grow fat on them. Let Turkey and Iran unite, but Assad can no longer speak. The secret state is in charge in Syria, the jackals have taken over. If he tells them to stop fighting, they will snap his neck that very moment. But there is no sign of that. Iran and Turkey should establish a military force and go into Syria, and Syria would go along with that. They must establish a joint military force and go in. There is no other way. There is no other way of dealing with this gang of jackals. The Syrian secret state is an extension of the alleged terror organization Ergenekon. They are the same thing, and share the same mindset. One of the many-headed monster’s heads is here.

Gaddafi is also the product of the alleged terror organization Ergenekon. It was those jackals who produced him. They went to Libya and raised him. The oppressor learned how to be a jackal from them. But Allah has now brought the system crashing down on his head. This is what needs to be done here. The Turkish Army is a heroic one, opposed to materialism and Darwinism. They are all very devout. They all pray in accordance with the Sunnah at the funerals of martyrs. The Chief of the General Staff, all the force commanders, colonels, brigadiers and everyone all pray in accordance with the Sunnah. This comes from their deep faith in Allah. The troops are all very devout. And our army is very modest. Let them go in and clean the place out. Our army will not shed blood. Its voice is more than enough. All they need do is set the streets of Damascus ringing with “everything for the motherland.” And that will put an end to it. Send one brigade and that will end it. They will sort them all out and bring them to heel. To tell the truth, there is no need for the Iranian army, but if they insist they can send them in too, in a symbolic sense. Turkey will appreciate that. Syria and Turkey need to be united. There needs to be a democratic election for a change of administration, and all the parties should go into Syria. Whatever party takes power will be the one the people want. Under an alliance with Turkey they can abolish passport and visa requirements and do away with the borders. Then we can go and eat evening pastries in Damascus. It is as easy as that, insha’Allah. The other way will cost the lives of tens of thousands of martyrs. But Assad’s gang in Syria will have to go. There is no way out of that, let me say. If I say that, I know what I am talking about. So he should pull himself together and come to his senses. If he is afraid he can call in a delegation from Turkey and talk to them in secret: “these people are jackals, they are in cahoots with the alleged terror organization Ergenekon. The secret state is all over the place. I am afraid of them.” Our minister of foreign affairs is a heroic man. He will resolve the problem all on his own. Turkey will take the requisite measures there. That is why Syria needs to be made to adopt a rational approach to the matter before the things that have happened in Libya happen there. I will say what will happen. It is impossible for any oppressor to stand against Khidr (as) once he arrives somewhere.

Ahmadinejad is an intelligent person. He can form an alliance with Turkey and call Assad to Ankara if necessary, or to Tehran. They can come up with a plan to act rationally and resolve the problem, insha’Allah.

• There is no need to take on the bigots. The nation just has a laugh at them. There is no need to take them so seriously. If we start targeting a group of fanatics there will be no end to it, as their nonsense is boundless. They keep inventing nonsense and fabricating things. They are a horrible sea of nonsense. They are utterly shameless types who constantly lie in the name of Allah. It is therefore a waste of time to sit down and take them seriously, name by name.

• Of course, satan whispers in people’s ears. “What need is there?” He will say. “This is all a long time away” or “it is over and done with” or don’t bother yourself with it,” “what good can you do?” or “this is how things have always been,” he will say. They will talk very foolishly, but you must not take them seriously. When I first went to the academy, people used to say things like, “you just graduated, find a job and get married. It is no business of yours. You can’t change the world all by yourself. The Ministry of Religious Affairs will do what is needed or, these things are dangerous, you could end up dead.” But I took none of it seriously. And I strove, intellectually, on the path of Allah, the path of the Qur’an, the path of truth. Look where the way of the Mahdi has got to now. Look how far Islamic Union has come.

• I did not strive to become a follower of Hazrat Mahdi (as), I declared myself to be a student of Hazrat Mahdi (as). And look at the path I took, alhamdulillah, masha’Allah. That is why, had there been a specific place at which to apply to become a follower of Hazrat Mahdi (as), that is what I would have done. But you have to declare yourself to be a follower of Hazrat Mahdi (as). You have to declare yourself to be a follower of Muhammed (saas). And then you will serve them, insha’Allah.

• Why are they [the Islamic world] in this predicament? Because ascribing equals to Allah is widespread in the Islamic world. It is as simple as that. When Allah sends an affliction, when Muslims lose their belongings, the reason for that is set out quite explicitly in the Qur’an. It also sets out quite explicitly when they will have dominion, be well off, become strong and collapse. If you associate anything to Me, I will collapse down the earth on to your heads, Allah says. But if you do not associate anything with Me and you abide by the Qur’an I will dominate you intellectually, He says. Our prophet (saas) has only one complaint, because they abandoned the Qur’an. He has no other complaint, “The Messenger says, ‘My Lord, my people treat this Qur’an as something to be ignored.” he says. Then disaster struck, and the Islamic world was fragmented. But when there is no ascribing of equals to Allah, when people admit the sufficiency of the Qur’an, and only the Qur’an, then the Muslim world will have intellectual dominion over the world, just as described by our Prophet (saas). That is very clear. There are more unbelievers and hypocrites around than there are grains of sand on the beach. Their forefathers demolished the Islamic world, and their descendants are continuing the tradition. This is not, of course, something maintained by way of race, or sect or by genetic routes. It is because they are all followers of satan. The hypocrites among us now are the same as the Abu Lahabs and the Abu Jahils of the past. They were also hostile to the Qur’an and wanted to alter it. And these people are also changing the Qur’an. It is the same mindset.

• Freedom is vital, terribly important. Allah will grant this blessing in the time of Hazrat Mahdi (as) in the End Times. Otherwise, there would normally be no question of preaching Islam and the Qur’an in the U.S. military and on its largest base. That happens through the will of Allah, masha’Allah.

• Once we have Islamic Union, all the wealth and money that is now wasted will be channeled in the finest way, and will be more than enough to help the Christian and Jewish worlds and well as the Muslim world. And it will be instrumental in everyone living in well-being, in being wealthy and developed, insha’Allah.

Surah Yusuf, 44-48:

They said, ‘A jumbled mass of mixed-up dreams! We do not know the meaning of such things.Because the Prophet Joseph (as) was able to interpret things very well. He had a powerful ability to interpret events.

The one of them who had been saved then said, remembering after a period, ‘I will tell you what it signifies, so send me out.’

They at first attached no importance to it. But then someone remembered that the Prophet Joseph (as) was a highly intelligent and powerful person, and went and got him.

"O truthful Joseph…” What was our Prophet’s (saas) nickname? Muhammad al-Amin, the speaker of the truth, the certain one. What do they say of the Prophet Joseph (as)? They call him the truthful one. Prophets always have the same character.

Tell us of seven fat cows which seven thin ones ate and seven green ears of wheat and seven others which were dry so that I can return to them and let them know.’

For example, Hazrat Mahdi (as)will clarify the hadiths of the End Times for us in the most perfect way. People will be unable to understand. But we will understand that marvel when he interprets it. I am clarifying them as much as I can as one of his vanguard. But Hazrat Mahdi (as) will fully clarify the, insha’Allah. That is the reference here. We can think of Joseph as a symbol describing Hazrat Mahdi (as). Because Joseph (as) is a prophet, and Allah tells us in Surah Yusuf that there is much wisdom in him for us and tells us to make us of it. We need to know that where it refers to the Prophet Joseph (as) and the Prophet Solomon (as), it is a reference to Hazrat Mahdi (as) and the End Times. Because Allah does not tell us these things solely for us to learn about past times. Almighty Allah tells us for us to learn from.

“O truthful Yusuf, tell us of seven fat cows which seven thin ones ate…” Now there is a reference to the End Times. Cows do not normally eat animal flesh. But in the End Times, animal bodies are widely used in cattle feed. What is used in animal feed? Other animals’ bodies, blood and flesh and bone. They are used as a source of protein. So this is a reference to the End Times. Animals literally eat meat. In bio-feeds. It is widely used in bio-feeds.

“..tell us of seven fat cows which seven thin ones ate and seven green ears of wheat and seven others which were dry.” Sevens, 2007, 47 and verse no 47.

“He said, ‘Sow for seven years in the normal way and leave that which you harvest in the ear except for a small amount from which you eat.”

They realized this year that the best way of maintaining the harvest is by keeping back part of the wheat. The newspapers wrote that the best way of keeping wheat is to keep a bit of the ear back. What does the verse say?"leave that which you harvest in the ear except for a small amount from which you eat.”

To conserve it. It stays without going off or getting moldy or losing any of its potency. It remains of a high quality. It remains perfectly preserved. Verse 47 refers to seven years.

“Then after that seven hard years will arrive in which you can eat from what you set aside for them, except for a little which you store.”

When did it begin? In 2007. When will the economic crisis end, in 2014, insha’Allah. It refers to that. Look, seven years. The crisis will have lasted seven years by then. I have from the start the crisis would last seven years, but people said I was way out and that it would all be over in six months. No, it will last for seven years, I said. They insisted. At the end of the day, the IMF issued an official statement saying, “the economic crisis will last for seven years.” Where did you get that from? I said it. Did you have any other sources? No. There are no other scientific sources. Nothing apart from my statements. They know it will last for seven years, and they realized that what I said was true. And it is rumbling on still. The economic crisis is continuing in waves. The economic crisis has flared up again this year.