The Evolution Deceit
ADNAN OKTAR: Allah creates everything, but makes his servants the means for that. Surely, there are always causes. There might be a lot of elements, people, departments and individuals that played a role in this, but the truth is, we’ve done a lot to achieve this, too. This is an obvious fact.
Whoever helped ensure this, may Allah be pleased with them because it is not nice to live like our friend is our enemy. It is nice to be friends, nice to love, nice to be brothers and sisters; love, compassion, trust, close relationships, friendship, brotherhood - these are very nice feelings.
Insha’Allah, we will build Islamic Union and Israel will be a part of it. Insha’ Allah, those days are approaching, the world is getting ready for that. Syria, Israel, Armenia, the Turkic Republics, Russia; we will all unite and, insha’ Allah, it will be a very happy and beautiful outcome
“It would be wrong to offend Israel, with respect to the apology”
But of course, we have to be very careful not to offend the Israelis, and not write columns that would put the Israeli government in a difficult position. There are some people writing things like ‘This is how we do it, we made you bow down, we scared you, etc.’ Shame on them, that’s very inappropriate. They should learn manners.
[Some people are asking:] “What does Israel want in exchange for an apology?” What do you think? Our friendship, our warm neighborly feelings. What else can there be? May Allah be pleased with all those people who were instrumental in this. Our brothers have done a lot, but I worked for it, too. Insha’Allah we had an indirect input in this, but Allah is the One who creates it, insha’ Allah.
DİDEM ÜRER: Many, many news websites reported that you were the one that brought this apology from Israel.
ADNAN OKTAR: I don’t understand the fuss about this. They are acting as if I said ‘I made the peace, I did it all’. I am not saying that, where did this come from? I might have played a role. Many people may have played a role and indeed, civil society played a great role in that. They are the ones who are saying this, not me. The Israeli government officials are saying this. And we really worked hard to achieve this. That’s a fact.
Do we have pictures of that? Let’s show them.
DİDEM ÜRER: Yes Master, we do.
ADNAN OKTAR: Here look, for example we talked to the Israeli Interior Affairs Minister. Obviously, we talked about something with him, we must have said something to him. Obviously, he said things to us. We are not saying everything here. I knew that this was going to happen and before they apologized, I said ‘Israel is going to apologize for the Mavi Marmara’ months before it happened.
We always had a loving, compassionate approach. Were there others that had a loving, compassionate approach to Israel? Remember those seeking a policy of tension ? Who worked for Turkish-Israeli friendship? There is no way one could overlook our efforts in thi:. No need to be jealous. If there was anyone else, let me hear about it. Maybe only a handful of people. Usually, people chose to adopt a hostile, hateful approach. Many people chose to hate. Many people started feeling like the Jews were equal to satan, Hasa (surely they are beyond that). We’ve done a lot to alleviate that tension.
Picture those people, who really worked for this, in a most active and sincere way. Tell me how many people you can think of in Turkey, when it comes to Israel-Turkey relationship, working for this friendship? Go and ask people. Go ask people on the streets to name the people they think of when it comes to rebuilding the friendship between Turkey and Israel. Allah knows how much those people worked for it, even if you try to deny it or undermine their efforts.
Anyway, it is not that I was doing it for their appreciation in the first place. Allah being happy with what we did, that’s what matters to us; we just want Allah to appreciate us. We are not seeking the approval or appreciation of people. The truth is, we really worked for it and we hope that, for our efforts, Almighty Allah will be pleased with us in the hereafter, insha ‘Allah. That’s enough for us. And we never said that we were the main element in this to begin with. I’ve never said that. But among those people, who became instrumental in that, we are one of the most influential. This is a fact, there is no point in denying it. And we were successful, because we approached the matter with love and compassion.
They say, “Obama got the apology from Israel”. He has no power on his own, the Jewish lobby made him the President.”
They say, ‘Obama helped do it’. They say Obama instructed Israel. Israel would simply laugh at that. Or they say, “It is the Jewish lobby that made Obama the President”. The Jewish lobby is very strong in the Congress. Remember, when almost the entire Congress sent letters to our Prime Minister asking him to take back his words, asking him to ‘rephrase what he said’. So they have a great control over the American Congress. If they are in control of the American Congress, they are in control of the USA, and Obama. So what are they talking about? Obama is just an ordinary man, a normal person that needs support. He doesn’t have a power of his own.
They say, “Palestine and Syria helped get the Israeli apology”. How could it be? They keep bombing Palestine incessantly. Syria has enough on its plate right now."
They say, “It’s because of Palestine”. They keep bombing Palestine all the time. [Although wrong] They don’t even take them seriously. How could Palestine have played any part in that?
They say, “Syria must have done it”. Syria has enough on its plate at the moment. How could they have done anything about it?
“We’ve been in contact with many senior government officials from Israel to solve the problem...”
Who else would do it? There is only a bunch of people. There are a bunch of NGO's. May Allah be pleased with him, FORMER FOREIGN AFFAIRS MINISTER, MR. YAŞAR YAKIŞ, PLAYED A HUGE ROLE. SOME PARLIAMENT MEMBERS HELPED, BUT WE INTRODUCED THEIR JEWISH PEERS TO THEM AND HELPED THEM MAKE THIS CONNECTION. WE MADE THAT CONNECTION. Of course, many good people worked for it. But if you ask, who was instrumental in that, we made a great deal of effort to achieve it.
I AM NOT SAYING WE ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT DID IT. I HAVE NEVER SAID ANYTHING LIKE THAT. If others made such comments, that is not my concern. If some websites made those comments, that’s their business. I haven’t said anything like that.
WHAT I SAID IS, WE ARE SINCERELY WORKING FOR IT, AND WE EXPECT ALLAH TO APPRECIATE AND LOVE US FOR IT. WE ARE NOT EXPECTING THANKS OR APPRECIATION FROM ANYONE. AND IF WE PLAYED EVEN A PARTIAL ROLE IN MAKING THIS COME TRUE, THEN THANKS TO ALLAH, INSHA’ ALLAH.
HOWEVER, IT IS US WHO INTRODUCED THE JEWS TO MASTER NEVZAT YALÇINTAŞ. Master Nevzat Yalçıntaş is a person who knows a lot of people in very important places and he is a beloved name, consulted by many. And IT IS AGAIN US WHO INTRODUCED THE JEWISH DELEGATION TO MASTER YAŞAR YAKIŞ. It is us who motivated, encouraged and worked for this friendship, brotherhood and renewed ties.
DİDEM ÜRER: And master, THIS GENTLEMAN IS THE MINISTER OF INTERNAL AFFAIRS AND VICE PRIME MINISTER OF ISRAEL AND IT IS THE SECOND TIME WE ARE MEETING WITH HIM, insha’ Allah.
ADNAN OKTAR: Many of those people don’t know about all those names that I’ve been talking to. They are unaware of the connections my friends have with many names. It is because we are not telling you everything; this is just what you see. There is a lot more that you do not see.
Let me see the other pictures. Masha’Allah. Look at it, former Ministers, Parliament Members, master Yaşar Yakış, masha’Allah. And important names from Israel, Knesset members, they all worked to make this come true. All these people you see here, they all worked to achieve this. But we are the ones who were instrumental in making this come true. It would be wrong to deny that.
DİDEM ÜRER: KNESSET MEMBERS, PARTY FOUNDERS, AND THEY ARE USUALLY FROM THE CURRENT ISRAELI PARLIAMENT.
ADNAN OKTAR: Name those people.
DİDEM ÜRER: Sure: KNESSET MEMBER RABBI YAAKOV ASHER, KNESSET MEMBER RETIRED MAJOR GENERAL DAVİD TZUR HATENUA, FORMER VICE MINISTER AYYOUB KARA.
ADNAN OKTAR: Yes, these people are the ones that are leading the basic policies of Israel, they are the decision-makers. Yes.
DİDEM ÜRER: KNESSET MEMBER RABBI DOV LİPMAN. THEY APPEARED ON YOUR LIVE PROGRAM WITH YOU. I AM READING THEIR NAMES. MUCAHIT DALOGLU, THE FORMER PM OF THE AKP; HALIL SIVGIN, THE FORMER MINISTER OF HEALTH; PROF. DR. YASAR YAKIS, FORMER FOREIGN AFFAIRS MINISTER OF THE AKP; PROF. DR. SHETREET, ISRAELI MINISTER; RABBI NISSIM ZEEV, ONE OF THE FOUNDERS OF THE SHAS PARTY, AND HE IS ALSO A KNESSET MEMBER; RABBI JACOBSON, THE GENERAL SECRETARY OF SHAS.
ADNAN OKTAR: May Allah be pleased with them, all of those who came here and made great efforts. And many other great people that we respect a lot. Former Ministers, Parliament Members, all of them, they worked a lot for this, may Allah be pleased with them. And we got great results.
The friendship of Israel and Turkey is crucial for the Islamic Union. May Allah be pleased with them all. Thus, a problem, a conflict has come to an end. We will make the same effort to achieve the same great results with Armenia, Azerbaijan and others as well. And I am doing it, insha’ Allah, as much as I can. Even if it is a contribution that is small, it is a great result for us. Still, everything is very obvious. There is no point in feigning ignorance.
DİDEM ÜRER: AYYOUB KARA, THE MINISTER WE JUST MENTIONED , HE IS FROM THE LIKUD PARTY, THE PARTY OF PRIME MINISTER NETANYAHU.
ADNAN OKTAR: WE MET AYYOUB KARA, WHEN HE CAME HERE. HE ALSO CAME TO OUR MEETING IN THE HOTEL. I MET WITH THE CHIEF RABBIS. WE HAD ALSO MEETINGS CLOSED TO THE PRESS, MEETINGS WITH ONLY THREE TO FIVE PEOPLE. And we talked about these things in a detailed manner.
Many people felt hopeless. They had no hope, they thought that this could never be achieved. We encouraged them over and over again, helped them to be more motivated. We overcame that air of despair. You can see the correspondences yourself. Obviously, I didn’t write those things myself. They felt hopeless. We kept motivating them all the time and thanks to Allah, we achieved this. You see the people who helped make this come true. May Allah be pleased with all of them, with all those who helped achieve this. And I played a part in that too, and it is Allah who will reward me. I’m working solely for my Lord’s pleasure. Yes.
DİDEM ÜRER: Of course, and these are the pictures of only a couple of meetings. Many meetings and contacts have been made other than these, including the meetings with the Chief Rabbi of Israel. Many people came here.
ADNAN OKTAR: Show those pictures if you have them with you.
DİDEM ÜRER: Yes I have those pictures. I’m reading the names. RABBI NISSIM ZEEV, KNESSET MEMBER FOR THE SHAS PARTY; RABBI BEN ABRAHAMSON, CONSULTANT TO THE SANHEDRIN COURT ON ISLAM; DR. IZHAK DAYAN, THE CHIEF RABBI OF SWEDEN AND A REPRESENTATIVE TO THE UNITED NATIONS IN THE EUROPEAN RABBIS CONFERENCE ORGANIZATION; BEGIN SEDAT, WHO SERVED IN THE ISRAELI ARMY’S INTELLIGENCE UNIT FOR 25 YEARS; AND DR. MORDECHAI KEDAR, FROM THE STRATEGIC STUDIES CENTER.
ADNAN OKTAR: So he is in the intelligence unit of Israel, like the MIT of Turkey. Yes.
DİDEM ÜRER: And YISRAEL MEIR LAU, THE CHIEF RABBI OF ISRAEL, that you shook hands with here. HE HAS VERY IMPORTANT DUTIES IN ISRAEL.
ADNAN OKTAR: Masha’ Allah. When Oktar goes there, he goes there on my behalf to represent us and he gives our message to them and brings their message to me. This is a service, these are efforts to achieve peace, brotherhood, and love because Allah wants peace from us in the Qur'an and in the Torah. And we are working for peace. If our contribution was only one part in a million, that would still make us happy. (Adnan Oktar, March 23rd, 2013: A9 TV)
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